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Best Non-UL for light wind?

 
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rboerth
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:35 pm    Post subject: Best Non-UL for light wind? Reply with quote

Here's a question for those who have flown a variety of New Tech kites:

Excluding the Desire UL, which of New Tech's stunt kites would you say flies the best in light winds?

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Chris
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Location: Austin, TX

PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NTK Pyro's

Especially the original Pyro
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rboerth
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Pyro XS seems to be replacing the original Pyros in terms of supply. So would you still say that the with the most readilty available New Tech kites, the Pyro XS remains the best for light winds (again, excluding the Desire, which is built for light winds)?

And here's a more esoteric question for those who like to experiment and who have some experience with reframing a kite for lighter winds: If you were interested in turning a current New Tech kite into a light-wind stunter (maybe not a UL like the Desire, but something that could dip down in the wind range), which would you choose.

I have been thinking for some time now about doing something along these lines with the French Connection, but I'm thinking that that might not be the best kite to start with. I'm wondering if a kite with a more bowed leading edge like the New Jam might offer a better place to start. Or maybe a kite that's not quite as big as the French Connection.

Just something to tide me over until Dodd comes out with his new light wind stunter
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Slow Dog
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Joined: 30 Mar 2006
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Location: Rugby, UK

PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rboerth wrote:
I'm wondering if a kite with a more bowed leading edge like the New Jam might offer a better place to start.


I've got P200 Leading Edges on my 'Jam, and will also swap lower speaders/spine if/when they break (it's intended as an exercise in resilience, as the existing Avia .230 broke too often, and was expensive to replace in the UK. And those P200 Blems were really, really cheap). That change initially produced an oversteering monster, and required the bridle moving up to compensate.

So it's both lighter, and more nose forward. It flies in any wind I can feel, with just a little movement to pull it up the window. I can't give you much of a clue how it compares to a real UL/SUL, as it's the only full-size kite I own or have flown for any time. It's certainly no good in zero wind (or those times when low winds can drop to zero for a time). There may be downsides my inexperience can't detect, of course. But I'm really happy at having an improved lower end to the wind-range, and at not breaking any more spars.
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