New Tech Kites New Tech Kites Discussion Forum    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Bridle line questions          New Tech Kites Forum Index -> Sport Kites View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Schook Kite Enthusiast Joined: 22 Sep 2005 Posts: 25 Location: North Dakota, USA Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:25 pm    Post subject: Bridle line questions A couple of questions I just got a Desire UL a couple of weeks ago and have a question on the bridle line and leading edge tensioning line. What type of line is this and how heavy? I would like to tighten the sail a bit and cant undo the knots so thought I would make a new line. Also as long as we are on the subject of bridles, what is the type and weight for the lines on the Techno and FC? I am showing some wear on my Techno bridle and would like to make a new one. Thanks, Jim Back to top Chris Mile High Club Joined: 12 May 2005 Posts: 228 Location: Austin, TX Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 5:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Bridle line questions Schook wrote: What type of line is this and how heavy? I would like to tighten the sail a bit and cant undo the knots so thought I would make a new line. The bridle is Spectra. The type of material on the tensioning line is less critical, so I would suggest almost any light weight braided dacron. #150 Spectra can work, too, and might be easier to work with then #80. Quote: Also as long as we are on the subject of bridles, what is the type and weight for the lines on the Techno and FC? I am showing some wear on my Techno bridle and would like to make a new one. Try #200 braided dacron. I believe those bridles have a Spectra core with a dacron outer cover. Chris _________________ "Fly a kite for a child and you entertain them for the day. Teach a child to fly a kite and you entertain them for life." Back to top Schook Kite Enthusiast Joined: 22 Sep 2005 Posts: 25 Location: North Dakota, USA Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:02 pm    Post subject: Thanks for the response Chris. I am having a great time flying the Desire, although I am still a bit heavy handed at times . Keep up the good work. Jim _________________ NT Kites In the Bag: Cherry Bomb, Techno, Big Bang Pro, Desire UL, French Connection Back to top indigo_wolf Kite Enthusiast Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 26 Location: MA Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:58 pm    Post subject: Schook wrote: Thanks for the response Chris. I am having a great time flying the Desire, although I am still a bit heavy handed at times . Keep up the good work. Jim Not a whole lot of miles on the Desire yet, but here are some random observations.... At the upper end of the wind range, the Desire doesn't seem to mind a bit of a heavy hand. Under those conditions and with the leading edge cranked down so there is a bit of deflection in it, it seems to become very, very responsive. At the edge of the wind window or near stall speeds, it definitely requires a much lighter touch and is definitely more sensitive to what weight lines you are using. In whisper range winds, I definitely prefer (depending on what I remembered to pack before heading out to the field) Micro-Straps, Finger Straps, or Boas (cool idea... but I didn't even know NTK made them until I got them). It was really gusty, erratic winds this past Sunday and I spent an afternoon doing primarily snap stalls and "touch-n-go"s Pretty much spent the entire time grinning.... kite definitely paid for itself in one afternoon. Sam Back to top rboerth Kite Enthusiast Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 23 Location: Oviedo, FL Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:32 pm    Post subject: Just to add to the reactions on the Desire UL. I have found a bit of weight on the two tips to be an aid in terms of some flat spin tricks. 540s and especially Slot Machines look great on this kite. The kite still floats nicely for these tricks, and the extra weight gives it the extra bit of inertia to pull of those tricks. The Desire UL can do these tricks in dramatic fashion with steady floats and slow rotation. I also find that weight to help a bit with keeping the nose up on stalls and slides. (What do I use? Some nuts bought from hardware store). The kite tracks very steady in very little wind. I've really been perfecting the 360 and can easily get this kite to pull off a steady, arrow-straight ground pass around the full circle. Axells, half axels, and cascades are more difficult: ULs in general try to keep wind in the sail. Even with careful set-ups, I'm finding these tricks more difficult to pull of cleanly I have wondered about disconnecting the bridle line going between the upper and lower spreader (that is, making it something more like a standard 3 pt. bridle). Has anybody tried that Back to top TGunn Wind Rider Joined: 30 May 2005 Posts: 84 Location: Wichita Falls, Texas - USA Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:54 am    Post subject: rboerth wrote: Just to add to the reactions on the Desire UL. I have found a bit of weight on the two tips to be an aid in terms of some flat spin tricks. 540s and especially Slot Machines look great on this kite. The kite still floats nicely for these tricks, and the extra weight gives it the extra bit of inertia to pull of those tricks. The Desire UL can do these tricks in dramatic fashion with steady floats and slow rotation. I also find that weight to help a bit with keeping the nose up on stalls and slides. (What do I use? Some nuts bought from hardware store). The kite tracks very steady in very little wind. I've really been perfecting the 360 and can easily get this kite to pull off a steady, arrow-straight ground pass around the full circle. Axells, half axels, and cascades are more difficult: ULs in general try to keep wind in the sail. Even with careful set-ups, I'm finding these tricks more difficult to pull of cleanly I have wondered about disconnecting the bridle line going between the upper and lower spreader (that is, making it something more like a standard 3 pt. bridle). Has anybody tried that Nice tips and suggestions about adding weight to the tips! Would you mind posting a review of the Desire UL with your suggestions, in our review area of the forum? Thanks! _________________ Troy Gunn - TKO Sport Kite Team - USA http://tko.sportkite.team.tripod.com/home.htm New Tech Kites https://newtechkites.com Back to top Chris Mile High Club Joined: 12 May 2005 Posts: 228 Location: Austin, TX Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 9:13 am    Post subject: rboerth wrote: I have wondered about disconnecting the bridle line going between the upper and lower spreader (that is, making it something more like a standard 3 pt. bridle). Has anybody tried that The middle leg of the bridle is there to add stiffening support to the leading edge. If you think the kite would trick better with more deflection in the leading edge, you may want to try it. For sure, the upper end of the wind range will be reduced WITHOUT the 3rd leg. Chris _________________ "Fly a kite for a child and you entertain them for the day. Teach a child to fly a kite and you entertain them for life." Back to top Schook Kite Enthusiast Joined: 22 Sep 2005 Posts: 25 Location: North Dakota, USA Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:30 am    Post subject: Great tips on the Desire UL. I really enjoy flying this kite and I don't mind those low wind days as much now. I agree this has been some good money spent on a fun low wind kite. I have really been working on using light and easy inputs and this is going better for me. I am finding that the UL's need a different technique when doing tricks. The other day I was trying some axels and notice when I became impatient and didn't let the Desire finish the rotation, it would end up in a fractured axel fade. Still made me smile because I like to fade. I have been using some 50# 50ft lines which seem to be working for me. All in all a fun kite to fly. _________________ NT Kites In the Bag: Cherry Bomb, Techno, Big Bang Pro, Desire UL, French Connection Back to top indigo_wolf Kite Enthusiast Joined: 28 Jun 2006 Posts: 26 Location: MA Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:48 pm    Post subject: rboerth wrote: Just to add to the reactions on the Desire UL. I have found a bit of weight on the two tips to be an aid in terms of some flat spin tricks. 540s and especially Slot Machines look great on this kite. The kite still floats nicely for these tricks, and the extra weight gives it the extra bit of inertia to pull of those tricks. The Desire UL can do these tricks in dramatic fashion with steady floats and slow rotation. I also find that weight to help a bit with keeping the nose up on stalls and slides. (What do I use? Some nuts bought from hardware store). The kite tracks very steady in very little wind. I've really been perfecting the 360 and can easily get this kite to pull off a steady, arrow-straight ground pass around the full circle. Axells, half axels, and cascades are more difficult: ULs in general try to keep wind in the sail. Even with careful set-ups, I'm finding these tricks more difficult to pull of cleanly I have wondered about disconnecting the bridle line going between the upper and lower spreader (that is, making it something more like a standard 3 pt. bridle). Has anybody tried that Interesting. I was thinking about adding some weight, but I was leaning toward adding it to the spine (trailing edge side). Was noticing some wobble in slides on Sunday, but I couldn't tell whether it was my lack of skill or because I was using heavier than normal lines (the wind was all over the place on Sunday). I was seriously eyeing the aluminum ferrules in the hardware section of the local Lowes with the notion of twist-tying and tucking it under the velcro spine tab. Unfortunately, it too late to do anything fun or useful by the time I get home from work. Something to look forward to for the weekend...I guess. Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         New Tech Kites Forum Index -> Sport Kites All times are GMT - 5 Hours Page 1 of 1   Jump to: Select a forum New Tech News----------------News and Updates Products----------------Single Line KitesSport KitesPower KitesAir-YOsReviewsSpirit QuadVideosFlight School Videos Activities----------------Events Community----------------Getting StartedFlight SchoolFor Sale/TradeWantedKite LoungeGeneral Discussion  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group