New Tech Kites

Dodd · High Flier Joined: 13 May 2005 Posts: 184

Last month the new Techno finally started showing up in the shops. I am very sorry for the delay, but we are ahead of last years schedule, but still have a lot of improvements to make as always in manufacturing no matter what you are producing.

Techno Specs:
Wingspan: I will measure one so we get the correct measurement this time
Frame: Skyshark P-200 Complete!
Sail: 3/4oz coated ripstop nylon
Bridle: standard 3-point

Can we get some pictures posted from the factory here Chris?

I keep saying I wil buy a camera so I can start sharing pics of each testing day. I do have video. Randy also has a link to some video for the Techno.

This thread is about the techno. I know that some of you now own one and this is the place to share, to ask questions, to resolve issues, whatever!

As you may have heard, the Techno, is basically taken from my design of the New Jam, not old Jam Session, but New jam which was the most up to date and best flying of all of the Jams from the past 10 years.

This one is different, so different that I changed the name completetly.
The Techno uses four standoffs instead of 6.
The bridle is similar.
The leading edges are similar but straighter, still curved to give leading edge camber where it is needed.

We can save the characteristics for the review section , but since the Techno is the next generation of the Jam, the New Jam and the Techno, Big Bang, became the French connection , I thought it would interesting to list a few of the specs from each.

Techno Big Bang French Connection
Spine 82.5cm 82.5 88
Leading edge 150cm 152 150
Upper spreader 55cm 57 57
inside standoff 24cm 24 28
outside standoff 24cm 24 29

here is the Jam Specs for comparison
91.5cm
147cm
50cm
19.5
(center) 22
(outside) 20

A deeper sail on the FC is indicated by the longer standoffs.

If you are just getting started, or are looking for your second kite, your first being a smaller one, I suggest that you go with the Techno. It is stable, and as the Techno, BB and FC all use the best darn spar available, skyshark P-200s wrapped graphite.

Next you will want to learn pitch tricks, which all 4 will do, but I suggest the next one be the Big Bang, or BBpro. So you learned the basics on the Techno, pitch tricks on the Big Bang. Just a little secret, by buying the Techno and big bang even at list only comes out to $180 USD.

Next of course is the French Connection which give you the best of both worlds. Projected list price of $150usd

All 3 kites use the same frame so many parts are interchangable like the wieght system.

Wieghts and yo yo stoppers/gliders, do not come standard on the Techno and at first, you dont need them. Dont worry about them for now, they can easily be added later.

Hope that helps
Dodd

WrongRealities · Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 9:02 am Post subject: Trick Kit

Dodd, you said someting in another thread about offering a trick kit for the Techno (weights, gliders and stoppers) for about $30.00.

Is this something that can be a reality soon and do you think the price could come down some?
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Dodd · High Flier Joined: 13 May 2005 Posts: 184

I know I didnt say it was available because it isnt, but I may have said that I would like to do one, I may even have said that we will have one but not until next season. I also remember writing somewhere that I was going to try to hurry up the process.

I really like the Techno, and so do many fliers already. I think more will get turned onto the Techno on these newsgroups since these are most likely the type of person who is getting into, or want to get into dual line trick flying. The Techno is good at tricking now, but the weights and extras of course allow it to pitch trick.

May I remind you that the Big Bang costs around $100USD and comes with everthing on it. For about 20 more, you can have a polyester sail.
The Techno and Big Bang compliment each other. two totally different style kites, but allow the same style of flying.....

So the yo yo kit is on the list for my return trip, I will do the best I can...
Sincerely
Dodd

WrongRealities · Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 11:33 pm Post subject:

I think you make great points Dodd. The two great kites do complement each other and when you think about the amount of money you're spending on some of the kites out there... Why just get one of the other kites when you can get two great tricking New Tech Kites? I've seen the videos and I have to say that I am sold on both kites. I am really impressed with the Techno. It seems to trick really well in the video. I am assuming that Rick was using some weight, but if that's all it takes to make the kite do that, then I'm all over that kite. Very Happy

I am so stuck right now on the Big Bangs. I want the Pro, but the Std is so much of a deal (Not that the Pro isn't priced well) and I only like the Pro for the new sail and the small improvement on the low end of the wind range (That counts allot for me). I like the 2-14 wind range which I hope to see New Tech cover some day.
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Dodd · High Flier Joined: 13 May 2005 Posts: 184

The 2-10 is covered by the Desire UL.

Team TKO uses this kite in unbelievable winds! I originally rated it for 0-6 because it is framed in a all 4mm carbon frame.

But TKO proved that it can handle lots of winds, and so has my Flight school in the past in England and Ireland where if it wasnt for the Desire, there would have been no Flight School that day.

It is not a tricky kite. It fades, it axels, it can trick, but it was designed for the beginner fliers first UL at an affordable price.

It is a good UL.

But we do have some things comming, just cant talk about them now
Dodd

Christian · Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 9:46 pm Post subject:

was wondering...what type of cener tee does the techno use? im having problems with my center tee on the pyro xs splitting where it wraps around the spine.
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Christian · Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2005 8:41 am Post subject:

wonder if the weights and yoyo stoppers at gwtw would work?
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Dodd · High Flier Joined: 13 May 2005 Posts: 184

As long as they will work with skyshark p-200s and the ferrule, I am sure Steve has what you are looking for.
The Techno uses a rubber center T like the Big Bang does.
Hope that helps
Dodd

NtenseEVO · Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 6:02 pm Post subject: Trick Set for Techno

I know i'm bringing up an old thread, but I was wondering if the trick set is in production now for the Techno. Thanks

Darnell

Dodd · High Flier Joined: 13 May 2005 Posts: 184

Sorry Darnell, not in production. Parts can be obtained to modify your current model i.e. yo yo stoppers, weights etc....

NtenseEVO · Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:16 am Post subject:

Do you recommend modifying my techno, or should I just go off and get a whole new kite. I like my techno, but I dont know about using something that wasn't designed for it. Thanks again

Darnell

rboerth · Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:54 pm Post subject:

Bringing up this old thread to ask about adding weight to the techno: What are people using and where are you putting the weight? I slipped a weight I had from a French connection down the spine until it rested just above the center T for the lower spreaders: It thus sits in the sail cut out for the center T. Ideally, I'd like the weight to sit below the center T and closer to the tail, but one problem is that there aren't any sail cut-outs below the center T. So I could put a weight there, but it will put a bulge in the sail and might create some wear issues as the sail is stretched around the greater diameter of the French Connection weight.

Schook · Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:39 am Post subject:

I have experimented some with weighting my Techno. When I weight it I use the weight kit from my Big Bang Pro and install it lower on the spine, just above the velcro that the spine slips through. It seems to me that putting the weights above the T-Connector wouldn't give much improvement on pitch. The weights deform the sail some but doesn't seem to wear too much. I felt this helped the kite sit more stable in a fade and would make it roll up better/faster. I even toyed with the idea of modifying the spine so it will come apart like how the BBP and FC spines do. I never did install any yo-yo stoppers.
Since I started flying my French Connection however, I have removed all weights from the Techno, tweaked up the bridle a bit and use it mostly for a lower wind kite. I really like the Techno when the winds start getting down to its lower wind range.

IMO the Techno is a great kite for the money and one that would be a good starting point for some mods. Now that winter is on the way maybe I will get around to some of the mods I mentioned....
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Dodd · High Flier Joined: 13 May 2005 Posts: 184

Using the 2 10 gram weights on the techno and adding a roll up bar will definately give you a trick kite comparable to most kites availalbe today, no kidding. Experiment with a dynamic bridle, and you have an even more trickable affordable sport kite.

Yes, using the existing NTK/Dodd Gross weights even at their higher positition works.

Since then I have experimented with new weights that do lower their positition on the spine, but not alot of improvement, only a little. What happens is that the lower you have them, the less weight you need and it really changes the pitch, that is why I still like being able to move them up and down the spine from the velcro to the center T. But again, I am experimenting with new frames and weights for the French Connection II, the French Connection UL, and The French Kiss. The later 2 will be available for the 2007 season. The French Connection II later on next year.

I like the Techno alot and although the PRO version was never officially released, this is one kite I would love to back to work on in the near future, trick it out and do it right!

Thanks again for your support, patience and understanding.

Sincerely
Dodd Very Happy

rboerth · Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:08 am Post subject:

Dodd · High Flier Joined: 13 May 2005 Posts: 184

Just use standard yo yo stoppers, they work.

Schook · Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:56 am Post subject:

Can't remember where I saw it but I read somewhere that the general rule of thumb for yoyo stopper placement is the 2/5 rule. Start by placing them about 2/5 of the way down the leading edge from the nose and adjust from there. No idea on how long the roll bar should be however.
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Cherry Bomb, Techno, Big Bang Pro, Desire UL, French Connection

Dodd · High Flier Joined: 13 May 2005 Posts: 184

The goal is for the kite to be able to fly wrapped up. So wrap it once and look at it, the stoppers should be around 5-8inches down from the bottome of the upper spreader connector. Try it there first. Thats why i like the outside clip on yo yo stoppers from Jon (skyburner)

That way you can adjust.

The way I do it is to basically put them where I think they should be, then cut cut cut, then when I get it where I like it, have the factory build another one...... Very Happy

Dodd@newtechkites.com